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The Physicians for Ancestral Health Podcast

Oct 31, 2018

Dr. Rick Henriksen, MD, is a board-certified family physician based in his hometown of Salt Lake City, Utah. He was the first President of Physicians for Ancestral Health (PAH), and recently founded Kestrel Wellness, which uses a Direct Primary Care model of service delivery.

Over the past decade Rick has been using Integrative Medicine and Ancestral Health principles to help his patients uncover the root cause of their symptoms and improve their long-term health.

In this podcast Drs. Tommy Wood, MD and Josh Turknett, MD interview Rick about how his recent transition outside of the conventional managed care system, utilizing a progressive health care business model.

They discuss the benefits and adaptations involved with being a solo practitioner, unconventional ways to find clients, and the software and apps he uses to track progress and keep clients engaged.


Here's the outline of this interview with Dr. Rick Henriksen:

[00:00:51] The founding of PAH.

[00:03:11] CrossFit, Paleo.

[00:03:56] Paleo f(x).

[00:06:25] Whole30.

[00:06:57] Book: Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.

[00:07:07] Book: The Paleo Diet for Athletes: The Ancient Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic Performance, by Loren Cordain.

[00:10:18] Educating colleagues.

[00:12:35] New care model.

[00:13:33] Current healthcare system: a set of backward incentives.

[00:14:29] Direct Primary Care.

[00:17:55] HIPAA-compliant app: Spruce.

[00:19:23] Risk of physician burnout.

[00:21:57] Giving out eggs; Utah Natural Meats and Dairy.

[00:23:28] Chris Kresser.

[00:24:23] Tool kit for behavior change.

[00:24:50] Motivational Interviewing.

[00:25:31] Book: The Four Tendencies: The Indispensable Personality Profiles That Reveal How to Make Your Life Better (and Other People's Lives Better, Too), by Gretchen Rubin.

[00:27:52] Tracking progress over time; Nudge coaching software.

[00:28:53] Kanban boards; Trello.

[00:31:50] Evomed; finding support from colleagues.

[00:35:42] Resources for tough cases.

[00:36:49] Institute for Functional Medicine.

[00:37:05] UpToDate software.

[00:39:32] Kestrel: Wellness Together.

[00:40:12] Stages of change model (diagram).

[00:41:53] Direct Primary Care payment model.

[00:43:33] Health systems strengthening (HSS); transitional plans.

[00:43:45] Healthcare share coops; Liberty HealthShare; Sedera Health.

[00:47:21] Find Rick: Twitter; Instagram, Facebook, Kestrel Wellness; email.